Jesus said, “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven…” It's one of the most confronting teachings in the Bible—and in this episode, Dale Campbell joins Bjorn and Sela to unpack what Jesus really meant.
Is faith just about saying the right things? Is doing good enough? Or is there something deeper? This kōrero explores the difference between performance and practice, and why a real relationship with God is what truly matters.
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